GLENN BECK PROGRAM
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GLENN: We have Tara Setmayer on the phone from Congressman Rohrabacher's office. He unfortunately is on the plane and there's some breaking news today and Tara's up to speed on this and the congressman has been most helpful on the information regarding the second load of marijuana and the second load of drugs that came in. From the guy who was shot in the butt by Ramos and Compean. This is the guy that put, along with Johnny Sutton, put Ramos and Compean behind bars, still in solitary confinement for 11 years. Now, Johnny Sutton was on my program and sure made me believe that this second load was bogus, never happened, they were still, of course, investigating it but Davila was never there. It was his office that made sure they pushed very hard so the jury didn't even know about a second load that was going on, would have completely changed the outcome, I believe, of the case but Tara's with us now. Can you give us the latest, Tara?

Tara Setmayer from Congressman Rohrabacher's office.

SETMAYER: Absolutely. My pleasure to be with you, Glenn. This is quite remarkable, quite a remarkable turn of events but for those of us who have been following this story from the beginning, we have been waiting for this day. We have known for many months now that the alleged October load was, in fact, more than alleged. It was this office that obtained the DEA documents that proved that the October load had taken place and Mr. Sutton was forced into a corner to have to finally acknowledge that, okay, well, yes, it took place but there's an ongoing investigation and we can't talk about that now. Curiously four days after we went public with the fact we had these documents, then the stash house owner was all of a sudden arrested and indicted. Here we have the vice squeezing tighter again two and a half weeks before the appeal. There have been rumors of fightings of Mr. Davila in El Paso receiving medical treatment. So, you know, Mr. Sutton all of a sudden now decides that new evidence has come forward and they, you know -- "I told you guys that I would indict him." This is just absurd. He should be embarrassed with himself. The self-congratulatory tone that he is taking here is mind boggling. He was too busy defending the civil rights of a drug smuggler while Ramos and Compean, law enforcement heroes were preparing for the nightmare of their lives to go to trial for doing their jobs.

GLENN: Okay. Hang on, Tara. I want to ask you because it's been a while since I saw -- I saw some confidential documents that have been sealed that had been made available to me and I saw these documents and in those documents if I'm not mistaken, it talked about how Davila was the guy driving the Astro van, he was there and he was released because he had a card on him.

SETMAYER: Not quite. What the document said is that the stash house owner where he drove the drugs in October identified him in a photo lineup of known drug smugglers. He described him all the way down to the detail of the colostomy bag that Mr. Davila had and it also details how the office of Inspector General Agent Christopher Sanchez who was passed with being Davila's, I guess you could say he was his escort, he's the one who went into Mexico and he's the one who gave Davila the immunity agreement. Mr. Sanchez was called in and he interviewed Mr. Ortiz Hernandez who also described Mr. Davila. They put him on the phone to his brother in Mexico who also described Mr. Davila as the man who brought in the drugs. So it was pretty unequivocal that Aldrete Davila was involved in this October load. But what we found out by Mr. Sutton's latest announcement that there's more than the October load. There's a September 24th load we didn't know anything about and we also suspected that he began running drugs from June of 2005 through November of 2005. That's significant because that was about, I don't know, seven months before the trial. He also had the free border crossing card. In June Mr. Davila was given a free border crossing card for 90 days. It was a 90-day I-94 from June through September. He was issued another border crossing card in September and another one in December and another one. So this -- so the U.S. attorney's office knowingly gave him border crossing cards and it was suspected he was smuggling drugs. How can they possibly justify their continued pursuit of the Ramos and Compean case when they knew that this guy was still smuggling drugs? They added charges. They were superseding indictments in this case. They actually added the 924 gun charge in September, they added the civil rights charge and they had an attempted murder charge, all after they already knew that Mr. Davila was still smuggling drugs.

GLENN: Tara, why is this coming out now?

SETMAYER: I think that the timing of this is curious.

GLENN: I think it's extraordinarily curious.

SETMAYER: Yes, it is. I can tell you, Glenn, that nothing surprises me with this case. I have -- nothing ceases to amaze me. It really doesn't. It scares me the level of arrogance that these people in this administration have. I don't know whether they're so arrogant that they're deluded or whether they are so calculating that they know something we don't. Either way --

GLENN: I think they are so --

SETMAYER: It is a miscarriage of justice.

GLENN: I will tell you, and I'm not going to ask a congressman to comment on this because I don't want to -- you know, I know you guys have to work together and whatever, but I had a run-in with a congressman last week, Congressman Cuellar.

SETMAYER: I saw that.

GLENN: It is the most -- it is the brightest, shiniest example of arrogance I have ever witnessed. Now, I think -- and again I won't ask you to comment unless you want to, but I think this guy's just ignorant arrogance, but I don't think that Sutton is ignorant arrogance and I don't think -- there's a reason why they nailed him last night. Because I have heard -- now, I don't -- do you have confirmation of any of these sightings of Davila in El Paso? Because I've heard several times that he was in again getting treatment while Johnny Sutton was saying, if he steps foot on American soil, we'll sure nail him.

SETMAYER: I can tell you that I have spoken to people who have said they saw him. We have been working for about six weeks to try to get documentation to prove that he was in medical facilities in El Paso but, you know, things happen -- seem to mysteriously disappear in this case. So -- and as far as arrogance --

GLENN: What do you mean, what do you mean by that, Tara?

SETMAYER: As far as a paper trail, you know. There are those that are afraid -- people are afraid to come on the record to discuss seeing Davila for fear of retribution. The level of corruption and good ole boy network down there in the southern border of Texas, it has people fearful. So, you know, believe me there is a reporter who is working diligently on this story that just could not get the concrete evidence that we could run with the story because people would not go on the record. But I have every reason to believe that it's true.

GLENN: I have to tell you I'm shocked by what is happening in our own country and I didn't want to believe it for the longest time and I didn't want to believe that people were involved but, you know, one of the things about Cuellar is he goes way back with George W. Bush and when you talk about the good ole boy network, it is there. When you talk about people afraid of retribution, I have people that have come out of the woodwork that work in Department of Homeland Security, that work in border security, in all levels of government that have come out and said, I cannot tell you anything on the record; I'd like to be able to tell you more; just don't give up on this story; I can't tell you any more because my family would be in danger from, you know, the corrupt elements on the other side of the border and I would be in danger of -- I'll be destroyed career-wise if I'm ever tied back to releasing any of this information. It's frightening here in America.

SETMAYER: Let me tell you what. The politics of the southern border are unbelievably powerful and they are so detrimental to the national security of this country that it's hard to believe that a Republican President who claims to be so pro America, pro our troops, we need to protect the homeland, would allow these types of failed policies to continue. Congressman Rohrabacher has always believed that Ramos and Compean have been the collateral damage of a failed southern border policy and this is a perfect example. I was on another program today defending Tom Tancredo's television ad and I was called a racist, I was called a demagog. And I said this is not about racism, this is not demagoging an issue, this is about the national security of our country and it's politics.

GLENN: How can you be called a racist when you are trying to get two Hispanic border guards out of Yale?

SETMAYER: They are so focused on one-dimensional, it's all about us and we're victims and you must be a racist if you don't agree with us. But unfortunately our President has allowed these policies to continue and we've got border patrol agents suffering conditions worse than terrorist detainees in Guantanamo Bay because Johnny Sutton is protecting God knows what political agenda we have with Mexico.

GLENN: You know, Tara, you said a minute ago that you are -- that you think that Ramos and Compean are pawns or victims.

SETMAYER: Collateral damage.

GLENN: Yeah, collateral damage of a failed policy. I don't think so. I think they are a message of exactly the policy and I believe that policy is all about big business, it's all about keeping those borders open as much as you can for big business, for a opening up and a relaxing of commerce that nobody wants to make the case for.

SETMAYER: Oh, absolutely. And Congressman Rohrabacher wouldn't disagree with you on that.

GLENN: He would or he would not?

SETMAYER: No, he wouldn't disagree. He is the first one to say that it is the guilty pleasure of greedy big business that will keep luring these folks over here, that doesn't allow for us to put guards on the border, that doesn't allow us to build the fence to keep them out so we have some control. It's because of that and because coupled with the President who's complicit, who is in the back pocket of the government of Mexico, we have what we have, cut off the --

GLENN: Tell me --

SETMAYER: Stop luring them over here.

GLENN: Tara, tell me, how is it possible that 60 or 70 Americans, just from the Laredo area, can disappear, 21 still missing, and we can't get any information on that? Tell me how the Mexican government, with their consulate, can make sure that we have border guards in jail but we can't demand before we give them $1.4 billion in security money, we can't get them to find out the information and give us the information of 21 missing Americans that were snatched at the border.

SETMAYER: It's outrageous but it's because as Tom Tancredo said so eloquently in a hearing the other day that my boss was a part of on this Merida initiative, the $1.4 billion that we're supposed to send to Mexico for security cooperation -- yeah, right -- Mr. Tancredo said, you know, I'm sorry but it's tough to figure out where the Mexican government ends and the drug cartels begin. And that's what's going on. There's so much corruption, the lines are so blurred, there's so much fear and money and power that's going on and exchanged in our border states, in the sister cities on the Mexican side that no one is willing to stand up and do what's right because they are afraid of offending someone or there's a politically correct aspect to this. And then there's also the vote aspect. The Republican party is seriously disillusioned if they think that by playing nice-nice with these apologist for illegal aliens is going to garner Republican vote, this is not going to work. It's not going to work and the American people have rebuffed these efforts over and over and over again where they can see through this. They see through the comprehensive immigration reform, they see through the DREAM Act, they see through these things and it's just not going to work. The Republicans really need to stop about how long down to big business and start putting the national security of America first.

GLENN: Not only national security. I think we're on the verge of losing our sovereignty. I really, truly believe that there is -- and I'm not a shadow government guy, Tara. I'm really not. I've never believed in this stuff. I've never believed in the, you know, Council of Foreign Relations, all that crap. I have to tell you, I think there are internationalists that are primarily just business, that it is just business that is doing this, that are trying to tie everybody together and trying to make sure that they never have any kind of barrier towards trade and that would include a border or any kind of inconvenient law. I think we're in deep, deep trouble and I also believe America is about to wake up to it.

SETMAYER: I think so. And this should absolutely be at the forefront of the presidential election and thankfully the timing of this I think is right for that opportunity because most Americans are complacent. You know, they have their everyday lives, they are not worried about politics, they think everyone here's a bunch of crooks anyway, you know, but in a presidential election, people start to pay attention and here is a perfect opportunity and there is example after example after example, from the examples you gave in Laredo to the Ramos and Compean case. Many of us around here have always said that this case, the consequences of this case far outweigh just Ramos and Compean.

GLENN: Yeah.

SETMAYER: This is indicative of a much, much greater problem that we face and it's indicative of a greater problem that we face dealing with this President.

GLENN: Tara, this is what makes me -- this is one of the reasons why it makes me so skeptical of the timing. Because you're exactly right. This case is a can of worms, but I believe the other can of worms is going to be the missing Americans on the border. I think when Americans really understand that, you know, it's one thing to say, oh, this is about security, but there hasn't been a bomb that has gone off, we don't have evidence that Hezbollah is here, we have some leading things that can tell us that Hezbollah is coming across that border, et cetera, et cetera, but you don't have anything. This you have 21 missing Americans today and I think when that starts coming out and we really start concentrating on that, I think this whole thing falls apart. Is there a possibility that this is just, just let's nail this guy, try to spin it, try to just make this kind of go away now, is it possible that that's the thing on the other side? That, hey, maybe we can still save this by just burying it, let's make this go away?

SETMAYER: Yeah, I think their arrogance has actually made them decide to do that. You know, it's curious that they released it at 5:00 on a Thursday when congress is set to go into recess for two and a half weeks.

GLENN: Yeah.

SETMAYER: We have a holiday coming up and the appeal is heard on December 3rd. We're still in recess. So there's no opportunity for the members of congress to get together, hold a press conference, front page. It couldn't be on any front page of print newspaper today because it was too late. All of this was calculated. I don't think any of this was done frivolously. Mr. Sutton's words were chosen very carefully, but I think it will backfire. It will absolutely backfire. I can tell you that there's almost, I guess about maybe 30 conservative organizations who have gotten together and signed onto a letter demanding that the President revisit this case, that he use his Christian charity that he claims to throw around all the time to get these guys out of solitary confinement and to do the right thing. That letter should be coming out next week and that says a lot. When you have keen, Morton Blackwell, the President needs to wake up and realize that the people who elected him are infuriated with his inaction.

GLENN: Yeah, I think -- Tara, I've got to tell you I think the President is involved in this but Tara, I'd love to talk to you some more. We've got to run but I'd love to have you on television on Monday because we're not going to bury this. We will make sure that it gets out what little we can do. Thank you very much, Tara, from Congressman Rohrabacher's office..

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