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GLENN BECK PROGRAM
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GLENN:
We'll start taking your phone calls here in a second, but I
have some breaking news. I got word last night that there is
a development in the Compean and Ramos case and Dr. Corsi, I
presume, is with us.
CORSI: That's right. A pleasure to be with you, thanks.
GLENN: Hello, sir, how are you?
CORSI: Great honor. Pleasure to be with you. Thank you.
GLENN: I was reading your story today in WorldNetDaily. Not
a lot of people have picked this story up yet, but I have
it. I have it confirmed at the highest level myself that the
drug smuggler, the one that was -- the one that testified
against Ramos and Compean has been arrested finally here in
the United States.
CORSI: That's correct. He was arrested at the border last
night in El Paso, and he is in custody and going to be
indicted today. He shows up in court, and this is a huge
story because it blows Johnny Sutton, the prosecutor's,
cover. The offense for which Davila was arrested occurred in
2005. It was the second load. Davila came across the border.
The incident was Ramos and Compean in February 2005. 750
pounds of drugs. Ramos and Compean shot at him, he got back
across the border. That's the incident Ramos and Compean are
jailed for. Johnny Sutton gave Davila immunity and he got a
Department of Homeland Security border pass. He brought a
second load of drugs across the border before the trial and
Johnny Sutton sealed that information and kept it from the
jury.
GLENN: He not only -- he not only did that. You know what,
Dan? Let's see if we can get the audio from the television
archives when I had Johnny Sutton on television. He said
there was no evidence.
CORSI: Exactly.
GLENN: No evidence that that didn't happen. He tried to
weasel, if I -- Dan, correct me if I'm wrong. Stu, did you
help me on this? If my memory serves me, which it doesn't
because I blew too many brain cells years ago. I believe
Johnny Sutton was trying to make the case that, Glenn, if
you only knew what I knew...
CORSI: That's right.
GLENN: You would know that there's nothing to that second
drug load.
CORSI: I saw the segment where you interviewed Johnny Sutton
and he was still representing the "If you knew what I knew,
you'd know how bad Ramos and Compean were."
GLENN: Right.
CORSI: Well, what Sutton knew and his Department of Homeland
Security reports and the DEA, Drug Enforcement Agency report
that showed that Sutton knew before the trial, before the
Ramos and Compean trial that Davila was named in this second
load.
GLENN: Right. He did not -- you remember, Jerry, he denied
that to me.
CORSI: Denied it.
GLENN: I said to him, I have the confidential documents --
CORSI: Correct.
GLENN: That were leaked to me.
CORSI: Right.
GLENN: I said, I have them right here; do you want to read
it? And he said, I can't comment on any of that and, you
know, I don't have those documents, et cetera, et cetera.
But those documents prove that what he said to me at the
time was a lie.
CORSI: Was a lie. And Dana Rohrabacher also, Glenn, took
those same documents and confronted Sutton with them in the
house of representatives and again Sutton lied. He said he
didn't have enough information to prosecute Davila. Well,
instead of that, he went to the judge and said, you've got
to seal this information from the jury. The judge in the
Ramos and Compean trial told the family that they even
mentioned the second load that the family would be
prosecuted, Ramos and Compean's family, just for talking
about this. And now it turns out the Department of Homeland
Security investigated reports, the DEA investigated reports,
were right and Johnny Sutton was lying. Davila had been
named in the second load. We know that now. He's been
arrested for it. And I want to see what new investigative
information Sutton's got between when he lied to you and
today. I don't think there's anything new. I think he let
Davila lie on the stand knowing he had committed a second
load. Johnny Sutton made a deal with the devil, sided with
the drug smuggler, buried and hid this information for which
Davila's now been arrested and is going to be prosecuted,
and it's a travesty that Ramos and Compean are in jail for
trying to get this three-time loser Davila apprehended the
first time he came across the border.
GLENN: Okay. Let me ask you this because I have heard
reports from fairly credible sources that he had been
spotted in El Paso recently at the hospital, still receiving
government treatment several times even after Johnny Sutton
was making comments like, "If I could just get him on
American soil, I'd arrest him," and people were reporting
that he was still getting treatment here in America in El
Paso. Any truth to that?
CORSI: I don't -- I can't substantiate it but it wouldn't
surprise me. Remember, Johnny Sutton gave Davila immunity
and the Department of Homeland Security gave him a border
pass card. He had those when he brought in the second load.
You know, Davila testified at the trial he just did this one
load with Ramos and Compean incident because he lost his
commercial driver's license, his mother was sick and needed
medicine. It turns out Davila's been a drug smuggler since
he was about 14 years old. He's a repeat offender. He got a
border pass card from DHS and brought in the second load
before the trial. Davila's probably been in and out like a
revolving door, and this wound that Davila got which the
Army Beaumont hospital removed for him, again another favor
Johnny Sutton set up for this drug smuggler, was a pretty
serious wound. It came in the left side of his buttocks, it
traversed his groin, he had to have a catheter put in, it
lodged in his right thigh. I've got the medical reports. And
yet he's supposed -- Davila's supposed to have been able to
run off the field with that and last for two weeks or more
before he got brought to the Beaumont hospital and got it
patched up? None of this is very credible, Glenn. I think,
you know, the defense was wrong to stipulate at the trial
that it was Ramos' bullet that lodged in Davila. For all I
know, Davila got back across the border, he lost 750 pounds
of dope, somebody in Mexico shot him.
GLENN: I'm not willing to go -- I'm not willing to go that
far.
CORSI: I want to see that ballistics evidence. When you
start talking about the Beaumont hospital, the problem with
Davila is Davila was a liar from the beginning and Sutton
put Davila on the stand and built his case around him.
There's not a jury in the country that would have convicted
Ramos and Compean had they known that they were listening to
a guy who the Department of Homeland Security said brought a
second load of drugs across the border after he was given
immunity. That's how this was drawn out.
GLENN: Jerry, how did this happen last night? Was he just
coming across the border like any Mexican citizen would that
--
CORSI: I haven't gotten a lot of details on it. The AP is
now confirming that he was picked up at the border. I got
called -- I was starting to get calls about 6:30 last night.
GLENN: Yeah.
CORSI: And I got enough information to publish in
WorldNetDaily that we knew Davila has been in custody. He's
going to appear in trial, in court today in El Paso. I guess
he's going to be arraigned and it's going to be interesting
if Johnny Sutton lets any of this information come out,
about the details of why he was back in, about how many more
times he's been back in the United States, whether he's been
getting additional treatment at the Army Beaumont hospital.
I want to know, you know, if Johnny Sutton extended immunity
to Davila for the second load. We still have not seen Johnny
Sutton or the Department of Homeland Security's file on
Davila even to know how they found Davila. Remember Davila
ran away into Mexico. Nobody knew who he was and suddenly
Johnny Sutton knows who he is. Dana Rohrabacher has
suspected and charged it was because the Mexican embassy
said we've got Davila; we demand you prosecute the border
patrol agents and I think there's likelihood that this was
the Mexican consulate intervening to get Ramos and Compean
prosecuted and now we've got to dig in. I want to see
Davila's whole file, all these secret papers that the
Department of Homeland Security and Johnny Sutton won't
release on this drug smuggler they gave immunity to and hid
this information about --
GLENN: Can we get it through freedom of information?
CORSI: I think so. I think Dana Rohrabacher, I'm intending
this morning to call Dana Rohrabacher's office and say why
don't you guys call with a congressional demand, put a
freedom of information request in from Dana Rohrabacher's
office. I think that ought to get the Department of
Justice's attention and the Department of Homeland Security.
GLENN: So the next step is today we see him show up for
arraignment.
CORSI: He shows up for arraignment today.
GLENN: Okay.
CORSI: And then he's going to have to be indicted. And, you
know, the other guy involved in the second load, Cipriano
Ortiz Hernandez, he's already in federal prison. He was
apprehended -- you know, I started writing about this second
load. I made a big deal about it because when I finally got
the transcript of the trial, which took months, there was a
sidebar in which the judge was discussing with the lawyers
the second load. So that validated for me that it happened.
Once I got that information, I started digging to find the
Department of Homeland Security and DEA reports and I got
the DHS one. I got confirmation of that report. Then
Rohrabacher got the reports and we have the full information
that the second load had happened. We blew the lid on that
case and then Cipriano Ortiz Hernandez was the stash house
where Davila brought the drugs in the second load. Finally
Sutton, after we released the name of Cipriano Ortiz
Hernandez, I published it in WorldNetDaily, then Sutton goes
and arrests Cipriano Ortiz Hernandez and what they did is
let him cop a plea. So we didn't get any testimony at trial
where Ortiz Hernando would have testified detail about
Davila. It's a bizarre case. Ortiz Hernandez -- and I knew
it was Davila because Davila showed up and he pulled his
shirt up and he showed me his catheter and he talked about
the incident with Ramos and Compean. So they had a positive
ID.
GLENN: Jerry, here's something that bothers me. Let's go
down the conspiracy road and tell me how this doesn't debunk
the conspiracy, you know, thing.
CORSI: Right.
GLENN: He comes across the border, he's arrested. They've
been saying if we just could get a hold of him, we would
arrest him. Now he's arrested. Why now? Why would they
arrest him now? How did that happen unless it's, you know,
good border cops that are going against the orders of
somebody like Johnny Sutton and all the way up the chain of
command to the White House? Why would this -- if the
conspiracy theory is right, how did this shake apart? It
doesn't seem to make sense.
CORSI: Well, it could be as simple as you suggested, Glenn,
that somebody at the border recognized Davila. His picture's
been published everywhere and just said, you know, why don't
you pull over here; we want to talk to you. It may have just
been, you know, good cop at the border doing his job.
GLENN: Okay. All right. Jerry, thank you very much and if
you have any more updates, please call us right away, will
you?
CORSI: Thanks, Glenn, great pleasure.
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