GLENN BECK PROGRAM
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GLENN: From Radio City in Midtown Manhattan, this is the third most listened to show in all of America. I am so glad that you've tuned in today, although blood's going to shoot out of your eyes. The Senate is doing it, again, trying once again to pass the DREAM Act. We'll get right to him because I know, you know, he's a senator. He's a busy man. Senator DeMint, how are you, sir?

SENATOR DeMINT: Hey, Glenn, I'm doing great.

GLENN: I don't even know where to begin. How --

SENATOR DeMINT: It's more of the nightmare act, I think, bringing it back up.

Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina

GLENN: How do -- I mean, how many times do we have to tell the clowns you're surrounded with, "No"?

SENATOR DeMINT: I don't know. It's really remarkably insensitive for the Democrats to bring up another amnesty bill just a few months after the American people, with great alarm and urgency, stood up and said no to the last bill. This time they are trying to cloak it in the guise of children, among several things.

GLENN: Of course, yeah.

SENATOR DeMINT: But this actually is a political maneuver the way they are bringing it up, won't allow any amendments, which will probably force Republicans who would even normally vote for it to try to kill it. So they are just looking for some commercials in the next campaign that Republicans are insensitive. But it's not a good idea. It allows anyone 30 years old and older -- or younger who has been here at least five years, if they got here -- or say they got here before they were 16, then they basically get amnesty and citizenship and I don't think America's going to stand for it. What we need to do, Glenn, is what we promised to do, what we started to do is we secure our borders, we try to create an illegal immigration system that really works, that people can plug into and that there can be some accountability there. We know when people are coming or going. If we can do that, then there are probably things we can do in the future to create paths to a legal status for some who are here. But it may involve going back and signing up with a program but --

GLENN: Senator, I have to tell you, can you please, can you please explain to the people in congress, just read the last part of the plaque that's on the Statue of Liberty? They keep -- you know, they keep going after the, "Oh, your poor, your tired, your huddled masses, yearning to -- "they keeping going over, "What, do we hate immigrants?" No, read the last line of that poem: For I stand beside the golden door. I mean, it is a gold -- A, it implies there is a door that you have to go through; and two, it's a golden door. I don't know about you, but I've never seen a golden door on an outhouse. It is a special place.

SENATOR DeMINT: Yes.

GLENN: That is revered. We don't hate immigrants. We just want people to go through the front door.

SENATOR DeMINT: Right. And Americans have been clear, and it's really encouraged me that they believe citizenship is a privilege and it's a privilege that shouldn't be given to anyone who can sneak in here and so we need to honor America by, I think, enforcing our laws and securing our borders and considering our sovereignty as something that's very important not only to us but to the world. Our strength comes from our sovereignty and if we're going to allow ourselves to be overrun and give up sovereignty in different ways, which we can talk about some of the other things they are doing here, but I think America thinks we're a pretty special place and that we need to invite folks to join us who want to share our values and work ethic. But sneaking in and getting amnesty is not the way to do it.

GLENN: So it's up for a vote today. Is it too late for people to call?

SENATOR DeMINT: No, no. It probably won't be voted on today. I don't -- oh, we might have a cloture motion to proceed. I know that's a bunch of gobbledygook for most Americans but what it means is are we going to get on the bill and start the debate. And this is the best time to stop it because once we get on it --

GLENN: So what do people have to -- what do people have to say this time?

SENATOR DeMINT: Just no. And I think they need to say they are going to be just as mad or madder that we're trying the back door approach to something that didn't work last time.

GLENN: Senator, I know I probably asked you this before. I ask every single, every single person in Washington this one question: Do you feel the disenfranchisement, do they have any clue as to what kind of angry torch-carrying mob they are creating by jamming the Law of the Sea Treaty down our throat in the cover of darkness and lying to us, trying to break up the amnesty bill, spending money like there's no tomorrow. I mean, it is -- the country is fragile. Do they have any clue as to what they're doing?

SENATOR DeMINT: Not many do, but I think it really helped us during the immigration debate for people to basically rise up and while they didn't have torches that we felt enough heat up here that it seemed like they did. And there were just a few members of the Senate trying to stop it and about 300 million Americans, and it just showed us, this is still a government of the people, for the people. They can do what they want to do, and they need to do it on amnesty, they need to do it on the Law of the Sea Treaty.

GLENN: How close that to passing? By the way, just in case you are tuning in and you don't know who I'm talking to, Senator DeMint. They are trying to do the DREAM Act again in the Senate. It's an amnesty bill they are trying to jam down your throat. If you don't know about the Law of the Sea Treaty, boy, have you missed the boat on this one literally. This is -- and, you know, Joe Biden wanted to have this signed, rubber-stamp it for today because it's UN day. How appropriate that is.

SENATOR DeMINT: I'm having a press conference with Trent Lott, Jim Inhofe, probably a couple of others because it is UN day talking about our opposition to the Law of the Sea Treaty and that we're not going to allow it to go through, at least without a fight.

GLENN: I've heard -- I have heard from more than one senator off the record, none of whom will tell me on the record, that they think there's a real chance this passes.

SENATOR DeMINT: I don't think so. I mean, I know a couple of weeks ago folks might have thought that, but I told the President personally that he can't push this, it would be another huge mistake and I've told that to Senator McConnell and we're continuing to work our Republican senators to let them know that bringing this up is going to get them the same reaction as the amnesty bill.

GLENN: Well, but wait a minute. That's not -- I mean, no offense, Senator, but that's not the reason I want you to stop it, because it will hurt Republicans or it will cause a bad reaction. It's wrong.

SENATOR DeMINT: It's bad for America and that's why it's going to hurt Republicans.

GLENN: This is what kept Ronald Reagan awake at night. We are slowly but surely -- you know what, senator? I have come to the place to where I'm not sure that the barbarians are at the gates. I think they might be in the gates. We are slowly dismantling our Constitution and our liberties.

SENATOR DeMINT: Well, we really are. It's time for people to stand up. I mean, we were told by the folks who wrote the Constitution it was only going to last as long as the people were vigilant because people inside have become insensitive. The spending, every day we're introducing amendments to strike crazy earmarks. We lose most of them. We did win the striking the hippie museum. We're just tying to -- we're trying to embarrass ow colleagues on spending and on issues like amnesty and sovereignty, and we're just trying to hold them off until the American people will stand up and say no more.

GLENN: Well, Senator, I will tell you because I've read a lot of the words of the founding fathers, or reread them recently. And when it comes to treaties, their idea was that it would never -- we would never sell our sovereignty out because there would be no senator that would ever do it, and I have to tell ya there are senators that would do it in today's America, but you're not one of them and I sure appreciate the hard fight that you're fighting, and you just please let us know what we need to do. I'm not a guy who, you know, rallies the troops to make another phone call to your senator. I'm getting sick of it, quite frankly. You know, no means no.

SENATOR DeMINT: Yeah.

GLENN: But I have to tell you I'm afraid for our country that we're going to wake up one day, America will wake up one day and go, wait a minute, this isn't the country that I used to live in.

SENATOR DeMINT: You are right. People have lost confidence in their government, you know. 11% favorability, folks in congress should get the message that we're not doing something right. And it's because people don't believe that we're acting in the best interests of our country. And that's a sad state of affairs. And we need to wake people up and I hope the 2008 elections will throw a lot of folks out and I hope people out there will stand up and run for the House and the Senate and we need a President who understands that America's got to be strong. Otherwise the world is in a heap of trouble.

GLENN: Senator DeMint, thank you very much, sir.

SENATOR DeMINT: All right. Thanks a lot.  

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