GLENN BECK PROGRAM
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GLENN: All right, we have Randy Ertman on the phone. Randy Ertman is a dad. He's the dad of someone you have heard about. She was 14 years old, Jennifer Ertman. She was going home. She was with a friend and they were going to be late for curfew. They happened to cut across an area to make it home for curfew and there they were stopped by a guy and his gang, illegal alien, where they were brutally gang raped and murdered and then their bodies ditched. The guy who was responsible for it is now the lead in a court case, the second time to the Supreme Court. This time the Mexican government is trying to get him out of it and it has significant ramifications. But I don't want to talk to you about the constitutional ramifications today. I just want to talk to you a little bit about the crime and introduce you to the dad of one of the children that was killed. Randy Ertman, how are you, sir?

MR. ERTMAN: I'm doing fine. How about yourself, sir?

GLENN: Very good. I know you are a working man and I appreciate you taking time off to be able to talk to us here for a few minutes. I want --

MR. ERTMAN: I appreciate what you do.

GLENN: Well, thank you, sir. Tell me, Randy, first of all just about those days.

MR. ERTMAN: Tell you about the what, sir?

MR. ERTMAN: Just tell me about those days. Tell me about that night as far as your involvement and what you and your family have gone through since then.

MR. ERTMAN: Well, it was like waking up in hell when we found out our daughter was murdered and then to find out there was six of them made it even worse. And now I feel like I've been betrayed by my government and it seems to me like the President of the United States is sitting at a table with a murderer, a convicted murderer who admitted it, laughed about it, joked about it, wore my daughter's watch and I think the President's sitting at the same side of the table as a murderer and I just cannot believe that our government, our President from Texas no less would take sides against Texas when the man has admitted it all over not being told that he had right to a Mexican consulate. It just makes no sense. It's going to get worse.

GLENN: Randy, the President would say that he has just, he has to uphold the law of a treaty that we signed in the 1960s. That's what the President would say to you. Is there anything that -- is there any understanding of that with you? Is there anything the President could say that could make you understand why he is fighting with and beside this murderer in the Supreme Court?

MR. ERTMAN: Not at this point, sir. He's had plenty, ample opportunities and now it's too late. The State of Texas is against him and that's just amazing. I met the President once when he was running for election and I asked him, are you going to keep the death penalty? And he said yes. And I said, will you keep him on death row and execute him? And he said yes. And he shook my hand and looked me in the eye when he said that. He lied to me and I have no respect for a person anymore. There's nothing he could say.

GLENN: Well, he's not trying to -- I'm just playing devil's advocate here with you, Randy. I'm sorry. He's not getting rid of the death penalty

MR. ERTMAN: No, but he's letting a murderer get free probably. Well, not get free but I mean, is taking him off of death row. But they are all in for a surprise because the county, Harris County, Texas is going to retry him if they can and put his ass back on death row where he belongs and we'll sit in the front row and go through another capital murder case and he will go back to prison and stay another 14 years, which is longer than my daughter lived, and he will be executed.

GLENN: Randy, is there any healing that can happen when you're in this kind of situation where -- I mean, you thought it was over, right? When he was sentenced to death, you thought it was over?

MR. ERTMAN: I thought it was over -- I'll think it's over when all five of them are executed. It will never be over with really. Every morning I wake up, there's an empty bed in our home. It will never be over, sir.

GLENN: Randy, our heart goes out to you and your family. I can't imagine the hell that you went through and I will tell you, sir, that we will follow this case all the way to the end.

MR. ERTMAN: Well, thank you.

GLENN: I think that it is -- you know, I think there is a -- I think there is a growing feeling in this country and it saddens me, and quite honestly in some ways it frightens me because I think we're playing with fire. A growing feeling of what you have, of just, how could my country have betrayed me. How can this be? How can we be so upside down to where a guy like this can be, it can be overturned and, like you said, not released but overturned over the objections from another country?

MR. ERTMAN: It makes no sense, does it?

GLENN: No, it sure doesn't. Randy, thank you very much.

MR. ERTMAN: God bless you, sir.

GLENN: God bless you, too. Bye-bye.

MR. ERTMAN: Bye.

GLENN: Randy Ertman, a guy who is -- I mean, Dan said to me I know that we have reached out to him and Dan said one of our producers said he's very hard to get. You know, he won't do the television thing. He doesn't like to do TV. He lives in the center of Texas, kind of away from everything. You know, his daughter was killed brutally by an illegal immigrant and he wanted you to know that he's a very big fan. And I said to Dan, lives in the middle of Texas, daughter brutally killed by an illegal immigrant and he's a fan? I wouldn't have seen that one coming. Gee, what do we -- what do we possibly have in common? Oh. Common sense and frustration and outrage.

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