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GLENN BECK PROGRAM
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GLENN: Ted Nugent
is on phone with us. Ted.
NUGENT: Hey, happy October to you, Glenn.
GLENN: They tell me you like guns.
NUGENT: I'm fondling guns as we speak. I'm calling you from
a beautiful Texas campfire at a hunting camp here in Albany,
Texas, campfires, cops, heroes, military, plumbers, welders
and teachers and ranchers and guitar players and we all
carry guns and we can't imagine how a human being of
consciousness, a human being of goodwill and decency and
certainly independence and knowledge and an understanding of
good over evil would ever go forth in this world in a known
and intentional unarmed helplessness. In the scenario you
just talked about, Glenn, horrifically, this unfolds on an
hourly basis around the world and certainly right here in
the United States of America. And for people to dismiss the
horror and tragedy with which you are conveying on this
radio show and then still shake their heads, purse their
lips and walk out of their houses knowingly unarmed and
helpless, it boggles my mind. I can't imagine such a wimpy,
helpless accepted condition, and I would like people to man
up, to freedom up, to good over evil up and people should do
what we've done around the country, get their concealed
weapons permit, train, get a modicum of tactical
understanding of weapon retention, weapon utility and stop
evil and not wait for the multiple stab wounds. Stop the
person now. And Glenn, in every instance, like this cop,
this off-duty cop who stopped evil and deadliness, we the
people can do that. We're not stupid. I know who the bad guy
is and I'm just a guitar player.
GLENN: You know, Ted, you just got off your tour. Are you
finished with it now or are you going back on?
NUGENT: Well, we take breaks during the hunting tone, but
the tour never ends. I had a greatest tour of my life, 77
concerts in 77 nights and that's 70 different cities that
have 70 different gun laws. But like the U.S. Marine Corps
heroes that I train with, trained me, I improvise, adapt and
overcome. And I can tell you this, Mr. Beck. I as a father
and as a husband and as a good American neighbor, I will not
go gently into that night. I will not accept unarmed
helplessness because Nancy Pelosi dictates so. I will not
accept that.
GLENN: You know, when I find -- what I wanted to ask you
about on, you know, your multicity tour is you get a feel
for the country and I tell you, Ted, I'm feeling something
I've never felt before. Last, what was it, last Thursday I
had two guys on the show. One is, you know, a Ben and
Jerry's lover from Vermont that just, you know, just can't
get enough liberalism, says that our courts, believe it or
not, are too conservative and that people should be set free
and there's no use for the Constitution anymore because it
has been completely usurped and there's -- and people,
liberals, are being crushed by these conservatives and the
way they have distorted the Constitution. He was sitting in
the same room at a convention of about 20, I think it's
20,000 members at a convention with another group. This guy
was from Tennessee. He says the Constitution has been
destroyed, it's all states rights and the Southerners have
been kept down since, you know, 1865 or whatever it is and
these two actually are banning together. They don't agree
with anything. I mean, these two should hate each other.
It's like Ann Coulter and Michael Moore having a love fest.
NUGENT: Good grief.
GLENN: And they are banning together to secede from the
United States. You have the guy from Reno last week that,
he's a vet. He's a normal guy and he saw the Mexican flag
flying over the American flag in Reno and the guy lost it
and cut it down. And he said, you know what, you got to
fight me for this flag. You are not just going to come in
here and take over my country. We're being taken over slowly
but surely, but I am going to fight for it. And I see this
and I wondered if you had picked up on this, this great
discontent in our country from people who are saying enough
is enough.
NUGENT: Well, certainly. I mean, again I've been very
fortunate. I've been touring since 19, since about 1962 and
I do travel all over the country and it's just glowing with
positive energy, but there is a strange atmosphere out there
where we identify a disconnect from the bureaucrats who, we
the people -- and it's why your shows are so popular, why
Rush Limbaugh is setting records in broadcasting, why Sean
Hannity is popular. There is a self-evident truth in
population, and it's the majority of us, Glenn, it really
is. Unfortunately too much apathy has silenced and gagged
the we the people that live by logic and the self-evident
truths that are constitutionally guaranteed and that we no
our God-given rights, not bureaucrat-given rights. So when
you use the term "We the people," believe me the Nugent
family and everybody listening, watching Glenn Beck, we go
damn right, that's what we need to get more of. We need to
be more active, we need to register, we need to vote, we
need to research the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights
and the conditions around the world where our founding
fathers refuse tyrant tyranny, we refuse slavery, we refused
emperors and kings, we refused control by bureaucrats in
Europe and choosing what religion is authorized, whether we
can defend ourselves or not. And we wrote down these
self-evident truths in the U.S. Constitution, Bill of
Rights. And you bet you, Glenn, there is a real discontent
because we the people feel that the bureaucrats do not care
to represent us accurately. But I see a painfully slow
growth in activism on my website every day. I was on -- in a
deer blind this morning talking with people and sharing the
beautiful sunrise and the kind of points that you're
bringing up, the logic, the taking care of business, work
ethic, being productive instead of bloodsucking, to be good
and positive instead of negative and whining. What we can do
for our country instead of what our country can do for us.
This is resonating around the land and I find in every
hunting camp I go to, every rock-and-roll concert I go to,
every charity event I go to that the big message here,
Glenn, is what you project. We the people have got to become
more active. We've got to sit down with our school
administrators, at church, at the local community centers.
We've got to monitor how policies are made, how these
bureaucrats in New York City will literally force millions
of people to be unarmed and helpless and we are forced to
run away when we see someone stabbing someone because the
bureaucrats won't let us stop evil when 99.9% of us know
exactly how to stop evil.
GLENN: Let me ask you this, Ted. There's two things that
come to mind. I think that there could be -- I think there
could be a perfect day scenario. There could be -- there
could be something that terrorists would launch on us that
could cause such great disruption in this country that I
could see us having some sort of a martial law kind of
scenario, at least temporarily in this country because it --
you know, our enemies want to destroy us.
NUGENT: That's materialism they seek, no question.
GLENN: Let's just say go down that road. You have somebody
like Hillary Clinton in office. I could also see then the
next step saying, we have got to get the hand -- guns out of
the hands of the people; there's too many guns on the
street, and a lot of dopes going right along with it just
like they did in New Orleans, you know, right before they
became a third world country and they took away all of the
guns there by gunpoint. The question I have for you, Ted,
is, A, do you believe that we could get to a situation in a
relatively, say in a five-year period where you could see
that scenario happening and, B, I have to tell you, I know a
lot of cops, and I think the cops are our future's best
friend because I don't think -- I don't know a cop that
would come to my house and say, I've got to get your gun. I
don't know a cop that is for disarming good, strong
citizens. They want us to be on their side.
NUGENT: Again I have to clarify because I am just the
extreme guitar player. But when it comes down to taking a
shower and calming down, I'm pretty much a nice guy, a nice
neighbor, I try to be a positive asset to this great
American dream, and I do so. And most of my friends, Glenn,
are cops and military heroes. And believe me, my friend,
what you just articulated is alive and well in the hearts
and souls of those who have sworn to God to support and
uphold the Constitution and certain protect we the people,
the cops of this country and the military heroes of this
country are on the side of we the people, not someone like
Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton or Obama or what happened
down in New Orleans. Most of the cops in this country, if
they were told to go door to door and disarm Americans, they
would say, nope, can't do it. Won't do it. I'm confident of
that. But we've got to cultivate relationships with our law
enforcement. Citizens have to have a relationship with their
state trooper, who is a dedicated hero in every state I've
been to. The sheriff, the local police chief. We've got to
-- you know, Glenn, I wrote Wang Dang Sweet Poontang but I
still introduced myself to the sheriff and the constable and
the chief of police and the state trooper commander. I got
to know these guys because I know that I'm their boss. They
serve and protect me. My dad and my mom taught me that. But
I think it's a rare relationship that I would like to see
you prod and encourage that more and more American citizens
and neighborhoods should have an ongoing, upbeat but
prodding and probing relationship communication with their
law enforcement officials because now more than ever the
painful scenario of potential societal disruption is on the
cusp right now. I'm not predicting doom but I'm prepared. I
have that which I need to sustain my family. And again,
Glenn, everybody I know, they have adequate food, water,
supplies. You know, most of my buddies are rural. So we've
got the firewood and we have the firepower and we have
relationships with law enforcement and National Guard where
we the people know that those heroes will be on our side,
but we've got to be prepared just like this cop yesterday or
the day before who lost his cool in Wisconsin and went nuts
and killed people. We've got to know and be cognizant of
those kinds of signs and warning signals so that we can
raise a little bit of hell prior to the disruption so that
the officials who are in charge of those kinds of
potentially dangerous individuals will nip it in the bud, if
you know what I'm saying.
GLENN: I have to tell you, Ted, I couldn't agree with you
more on reaching out to your local police. I was asked a
couple of weeks ago if I would help a sheriff's department
out in Idaho on something that they were working on, and
Sheriff Klingler's from Madison County in Idaho asked me to
come out. I don't give up my personal time easily. It means
a lot to me. And I was out in Idaho -- because I have
connections to this community -- helping him and helping the
sheriff department on something that they were working on,
and I have to tell you if we don't do this, if we don't
recognize who our friends are, we're in real, real -- we're
in real, real trouble. Ted, one more thing. Let me ask you,
have you made a decision on if you had a gun to your head
today -- and I just want to make it very clear, you don't
have one. But if you had a gun to your head today, who would
you vote for?
NUGENT: Do I really have to answer that question?
GLENN: Yeah.
NUGENT: It's tough. My favorite man or individual running
for the presidency of the United States of America right now
today, since you're holding that gun to my head.
GLENN: Yeah.
NUGENT: Is a man who covers all the bases for we the people,
the U.S. constitution, the Bill of Rights, decency and
that's Mike Huckabee.
GLENN: Mike Huckabee, I would have thought you were a Ron
Paul guy.
NUGENT: Ron's a good man, Fred Thompson's a good man, I like
Mitt Romney and Mr. Giuliani on many levels. But no one in
my estimation today -- and I'm not voting today.
GLENN: No, no, if you had a gun to my head. We're the same
way. I would never draw a gun on you because I'd lose.
NUGENT: But Mike Huckabee, I'm telling you I've spent time
with the man, I've watched how he conducts his personal
life, his family life as governor of the State of Arkansas.
GLENN: Oh, Ted, personal life doesn't -- personal life,
personal life doesn't matter. You know that. You learned
that.
NUGENT: Well, a person's moral compass, I believe.
GLENN: What did you say?
NUGENT: It's an indicator of a person's moral compass, I
believe.
GLENN: No! No! Bill Clinton told me. Bill Clinton told me
personal life doesn't -- just go in and do the right thing.
You know, from 9:00 to 5:00. You can do whatever you want
outside at 9:00 to 5:00.
NUGENT: I don't think so.
GLENN: All right. Ted, always good to talk to you, sir.
NUGENT: Glenn, God speed.
GLENN: You bet, bye-bye.
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