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Gun To Your Head
OCTOBER 04, 2007

GLENN BECK PROGRAM
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GLENN: You had to vote today, who would you vote for? You had a gun to your head. You can't say, -- I guess you can say, but you end up dead. You're in the voting booth. Somebody has a gun to your head and you are like, but I'm not ready yet; I don't really know for sure, I'm not really -- pull the lever, pull the trigger. Which is it? Dan? Who is it?

DAN: Still Rudy Giuliani for me.

GLENN: Okay, no movement on you, with you at all?

DAN: No. I do want him to stop the cell phone calls immediately.

GLENN: Yes.

DAN: As soon as he stops that, I'll be --

GLENN: Solidly there.

DAN: Yeah, but I'm there.

GLENN: Stu, where are you?

STU: I'm going to also remain in the Giuliani camp, although I've said over and over again I could go to Romney easily and I still would like to know more about Fred Thompson.

GLENN: Have you moved -- I would like to hear more from Fred Thompson as well. Have you moved at all from Giuliani or are you still the same place? Is it weakened? Is it stronger, weak, about the same?

STU: I would say about the same. I haven't seen anything that would make me move off of him, although I think Romney's very strong.

GLENN: Our gun nut.

STU: Interestingly enough, Glenn, the gun nut is the one that's going to have his head splattered against the wall with a gun to your head.

GLENN: Really? Adam, how would you vote?

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ADAM: I would have to -- I would have to do write-in candidate of Giuli-Romney. I'm moving away from Giuliani towards Romney but I am not there yet. But I can write in a vote. This is America.

GLENN: All right. Throwing away your vote again.

STU: That's not a candidate. That is not a candidate. Adam's head is splattered against the wall.

DAN: That was Giuliani. He said he hadn't moved over there yet.

GLENN: Well, there goes Adam. It was nice to know you, Adam. Get the other guys on the phone and do the list. Sarah's out this week. So she can't vote. I have moved out of the Giuliani camp and I have -- only because I have a gun to my head, I moved into the Romney camp and it is -- I still, I have to hear him talk about healthcare because I don't trust him on this healthcare thing. What did you do up in Massachusetts? What, are you nuts?

DAN: What changed you? Let me ask you that. What changed you? Because this is only a month ago that we did this.

GLENN: I know, what changed me was thinking more about Giuliani. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend, and I just don't know if I trust him behind closed doors. I just don't know if he's the kind of guy that isn't just somebody who's like, screw them; we're doing it. And that's part of what I like, but I'm not sure of his moral fiber, you know? And I -- you know, I told you right after I said Giuliani last time. I said, but I kind of feel -- I feel a little dirty for that because character matters, and I think if it wasn't for the character issue, I think if I really trusted his character, I'd be in.

DAN: But there's nothing really to convict him in a court of law on his character.

GLENN: No, there's not.

DAN: It's just suspicions at this point.

GLENN: No, it's not even suspicions. It's just -- I don't know. It's not as much about Giuliani as I just don't -- there's something about it just kind of, I don't know. And when it comes to Romney, I think I do know. I think I do know. I know the guy. I may not agree with him on some things, but I know the guy is -- it's not going to be a scandal ridden administration. There's not going to be scandal there. You know, it's just not going to be a guy who is lying and then screwing us behind our back. He'll tell us, he'll tell us, you know, what his opinion is and then he'll -- you know, and then he will do it, like it or not. But I don't see him getting into bed with bad people. And I also, more importantly, the other thing that changed me was standing across the street from the White House. It was a couple of weeks ago and I was having dinner and it was up on this rooftop across the street from the White House and I'm looking down on it and I'm looking right into the Oval Office and I'm also looking at other rooftops and going, hey, look, guys with guns. But I'm looking down into the Oval Office and I thought to myself, my gosh, that's where it all happens, where millions, hundreds of millions of people, their fate, their fortunes, their lives, whether they are going to live or die or whether they are going to be in freedom or not in freedom, whether they are going to be enslaved with high taxes, whether they can pursue their dreams all happen in that room. And I was thinking that and I thought how many -- I know how many have the ego to be able to run and be the President of the United States, how many also have the humility that it requires that goes right hand in hand. How many are humble enough, how many are strong enough leaders and strong enough in what they know to be able to stand up and say, excuse me, no, I told you we're not doing that. And then at the same time when they make a decision that they close that office door and they literally get down on their knees and they say, okay, Lord, I mean, I'm doing the best I can, but hundreds of millions of people's lives are at stake; help me. This is the decision I've made; please move me in another direction if that's not the direction that you want me to go. I've got to have a guy I know is on his knees, have to. Because the decisions are too big. The problems are too massive and if you just believe that your answer is the answer, I know, because I'm an alcoholic, I know how I screw it up every time when I do it my way. It's not my way that should be done, and I need a President that understands that because the decisions are just too massive. And that was really the pivot point for me. And that's honestly why I take another look at Huckabee because I gotta have a guy like that.

(Rain-X commercial).

You know, here's the other thing I've been thinking about. The things that are still out for me on Romney, and I'm by no means locked into that one, but the healthcare thing really bothers me. Is that what's keeping you away from it, Stu?

STU: I would say --

GLENN: Because Giuliani's healthcare, his answer is the best I've heard.

STU: Yeah, Giuliani has the best answer to healthcare. I feel like the majority of the things that I compare them, I feel like I like Giuliani a little bit more in all of them.

GLENN: Okay.

STU: But the main, the biggest difference between the two is healthcare for me because it's not even remotely close.

GLENN: The other thing that I find interesting, and I thought it was a negative, is how he won't commit on the war and the surge, and I really, truly believe thaws because he's spooked by his father. His father, you know, said that we should be in the Vietnam War and I think in '66 he went over to Vietnam and then he was running for President against Nixon and things were going very well for him and his father came out and they asked him about Vietnam after he came back from Vietnam and he said, I think I've been brainwashed. I think we all have been. We've been lied to by our military leaders and by this administration, and that wasn't a popular thing for a Republican to say. And his career was over, and I actually kind of like that. I think I've actually kind of changed a little bit there on, I like the cautiousness of somebody saying, you know what, I want to make sure everything is right. And that's all he's been saying on the surge is, looks like it's been working; let's see the whole thing.

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GLENN: Bandwagon, Bandwagon Boys.

Well, let me see here. We go to John Bobby. Do you know which one he is? Who else is on? John Bobby?

CALLER: Hello, Glenn.

GLENN: One of the writers for the television and radio program. John has lived the last 15 years here in New York City. So he has been corrupted. He has had the liberal virus implanted into his head and it's just consuming his body. And soon his bank account. And have you changed your vote? Last time you voted for Giuliani.

CALLER: Yes, Giuliani supporter.

GLENN: And this time are you still Giuliani?

CALLER: I am not.

GLENN: Really? What happened?

CALLER: Quite honestly it was the two sort of stone stunts, the cell phone stunts. One of them happened with you at the NRA. I just can't vote for a guy who would do that.

GLENN: That's your -- wait a minute, wait a minute. That's your line?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: The phone stunt? You're kidding me.

CALLER: I can't give that guy a key to the office with the button.

GLENN: Why do you say that?

CALLER: This seems like such a bad judgment. First of all, because I'm thinking not only are you voting for the President, you are also voting in all of the people around him or her in this case. So if Giuliani didn't have at least one guy who said, dude, don't do the phone thing, come on, that's going to be lame, I can't trust that guy or anybody else around him. I have people in mine that say, John, just don't do that. I don't always listen to them, either, but I'm not run --

GLENN: But it worked the first time he did it.

CALLER: It worked the first time and maybe once is kind of funny but the second time it just seems tacky and I just, I can't do that.

GLENN: This is -- I mean, I don't know if you know this, John. He is not running for the office of comedian of the United States.

CALLER: Well, granted. We all know that whoever's President does generate a lot of comedy.

GLENN: Yes, all right. See, this is just proof positive that people are stupid and make decisions for -- oh, you know what, you've got to get back on the line because I forgot to ask him who he switched to. Just mark him down for Clinton.

CALLER: He's telling me Clinton.

GLENN: See, there you go, Clinton, all right. And who is this? Which one of the -- this is Kevin. Hi, Kevin.

KEVIN: Hey, Glenn.

GLENN: All right, Kevin, writer of the Real Story, right-thinking American. Who are you voting -- who did you vote for last time?

KEVIN: Last time I was Giuliani but low conviction.

GLENN: Low conviction on Giuliani. So you really kind of where I was?

KEVIN: Yes.

GLENN: And has that changed?

KEVIN: Unfortunately, and I hate to follow your lead again, I hate to jump on your bandwagon but I am now low conviction Romney.

GLENN: Exactly where I am. I'm low conviction Romney, too.

KEVIN: Slightly different reason than you.

GLENN: All right. What is it?

KEVIN: My thing over the last few months is I've really turned onto the economy in terms of just getting our financial house in order. And with all these stories we've been doing about, you know, just the unbelievable cost for Medicare and healthcare and Social Security, everything we're going to be facing, I don't understand how we're going to fight Islam or anybody else with 80 or 90% tax rates and so I feel like if we run this country like a business, which Romney to me is the guy who's proven we can do that, that we have a much better chance of winning every other fight we need to fight.

GLENN: What was the business that he ran? What was that thing that he like --

KEVIN: He did the Salt Lake Olympics obviously.

GLENN: I know. That thing was a nightmare, full of corruption, everything else. He cleaned that thing out and they came out with, what, a $50 million surplus? And he did the same thing with the surplus in Massachusetts. They were in -- when he joined, they had a deficit, he had a $3 million surplus or a $3 billion surplus when he left. What was the company? Do you remember his company name?

KEVIN: It was Bain.

GLENN: Do you know the story behind that? Because it's like one of the more incredible business stories.

KEVIN: Well, Bain, he founded Bain Capital which is just one of the most unbelievable consulting groups around. So he's got that. I mean, and remember the Big Dig fiasco in Boston, also. They brought him back in and he's like, that's it, I'm done with you guys, I'm done with all you contractors who are screwing this over, I'm taking this over.

GLENN: Yeah, I know, but did he fix it?

KEVIN: I don't think anyone died in the last year.

GLENN: Okay, all right. We got a high buyer on that one. So you are for Romney, low conviction.

KEVIN: Yes.

GLENN: Okay. Thank you, appreciate it.

STU: We also have line 9 is Jeff Fisher.

GLENN: Jeff Fisher.

JEFF: Yes, hello.

GLENN: Yes, go ahead. Last time you were for?

JEFF: Last time I was for John Thompson but I think I'm --

GLENN: Wait, wait. You mean Fred Thompson?

JEFF: Fred Thompson.

GLENN: You were really hard in the his camp, wearing the T-shirt and everything.

JEFF: I was actually.

GLENN: And now you are in the Hillary camp?

JEFF: I tell you I saw Hillary and Bill Clinton walking through a crowd the other day and I thought, if Bill ran today, he would get back in the White House. So I think it would win by a landslide.

GLENN: He is not running.

JEFF: He would be in the White House, though.

GLENN: Yes, he would be in the White House and I would imagine so would carpet cleaners. I'm just saying. Our carpet cleaning bill may go up.

JEFF: That's not a bad thing.

GLENN: You think? All right, so you are in Clinton -- no, really. Why did you switch to Clinton? From Fred Thompson? That's quite a --

JEFF: That is quite a shift. I was always leaning toward Hillary. I've always liked her. It takes a village.

GLENN: It takes a village to what? Satisfy her man or... I'm just -- oh, well, there it is. 

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