GLENN BECK PROGRAM
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GLENN: So we have the Executive Vice President of the NRA, Wayne LaPierre who is a decent human being and a man that someday I hope to be able to call a friend of mine. Wayne LaPierre, welcome to the program, Wayne.

Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President of the NRA

LaPIERRE: Thanks, Glenn. Appreciate you having me.

GLENN: Tell me about the bill. And I know we did this last minute and let me invite you right off the bat. When you have time next week, I'd like to have you for an extended period of time. I'd like to give you a full hour on television for this as well if you'll take it next week.

LaPIERRE: That would be great. I'd love to do it with you. Appreciate it.

GLENN: Tell me, tell me what this gun legislation is and how dangerous it really is.

LaPIERRE: Well, here's the deal. There's a lot of misinformation floating around and let me give you the exact story on it. NRA's been trying to get improvements made in this system for years to make this fair for law-abiding gun owners because 99.9% of the people that go through that system are the good guys. On the other hand if somebody's adjudicated by a court of law to be mentally defective, suicidal, danger to themselves, danger to others, NRA has said for 15 years that court adjudication ought to be part of the file to screen out people that are mentally defective, adjudicated by a court. This bill makes the improvements that NRA has been trying to get in the system for years to make this better for the good guys. There's not one step backward anywhere in this bill if you're a good guy. This bill says that the federal government can never impose a fee on the law-abiding people that go through this system like Bill Clinton was trying to do, put a big fee on it. For the first time it sets up a relief from disability where if you think you're in there unfairly and the fact that you don't have a problem anymore, you can get out of the system. It also sets up a court review in terms of someone that feels they've been unfairly put in this system at the state level. They have an opportunity to have a hearing and get out of it. It sets up a audit every year by the GAO to make sure that the money's being spent for the proper purposes. It also removes incorrect records. It removes irrelevant records. I mean, to sum up, it improves the completeness of a system in terms of the bad guys, the people adjudicated by a court to be mentally defective, but it gets all these irrelevant records out of there. And for the first time ever it helps these veterans that Bill Clinton unfairly, the 90,000 of them put in the system because they came back from war and they had a medical problem from the rigors of war and Bill Clinton put them in the system. They had never been adjudicated by a court. They simply had a medical diagnosis of stress and the Clinton people lumped them in there. Under this Bill the VA is going to be required to set up a system where each one of those veterans can get out of that file and for the first time be able to buy a firearm.

GLENN: All right. Now, this is all good news. This is the bill that you're putting through. Which bill is it?

LaPIERRE: This is the bill in its present form in both the House and the Senate.

GLENN: What is HR 2640 introduced by McCarthy?

LaPIERRE: That -- well, what happened is we hijacked McCarthy's bill. In other words, it has McCarthy's name on it, but it's the John Dingell bill that has McCarty's name on it with all these improvements for the good guys.

GLENN: God bless you. All right, so okay. Because I'm looking at something that is dated September 27th and it still says that there is -- there's a lot of this stuff in here still about ADHD, about, you know, a veteran about posttraumatic stress disorder. They're talking about all kinds of stuff that is in this bill. You are saying that that is no longer in this bill?

LaPIERRE: I'm saying that there is nothing bad -- that is no longer in the bill. There is nothing bad in this bill for the good guys. This bill is going to help for the first time give those veterans a way to get out of the system. If this bill doesn't pass, there will be absolutely no way for those 90,000 veterans that simply had a medical diagnosis of stress to get out from this system if this bill doesn't pass. They're banned forever. There's no way to get out.

GLENN: Okay. Wayne, we've got to go because I've got a hard network break here but I would like to spend more time with you. I am so glad to hear that you guys have been all over, on top of this and that it has been -- that it had been hijacked, to use your words. I know that, you know, we talked a couple of weeks ago and we were talking about the fact that California, they all say that they want to make sure crazy people don't get guns but then how many were -- how many people had their records put into the system that were adjudicated, nuts in, like, the last year? What was it, two, three?

LaPIERRE: That's right.

GLENN: In California.

LaPIERRE: From California, that's exactly right.

GLENN: Again you don't need more laws. You just need to use the system we've already got. Wayne LaPierre, we'll talk to you again, sir. Thank you very much.

LaPIERRE: Thanks, Glenn.

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