GLENN BECK PROGRAM
GLENN: Now, what
is Al-Qaeda possibly planning for us? We started to line it
out yesterday on the radio and last night on television, and
Brad Thor is with us. He's a guy who is a best selling
author. His latest book is The First Commandment, but he's
also part of the, what is it, the red cell?
THOR: The Analytic Red
Cell unit, Glenn. I was invited to join that after 9/11
which is a group of people in the Department of Homeland
Security that try to stay four or five steps ahead of the
terrorists by envisioning what they might do to us next.
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GLENN: Now, Brad, I wanted -- I just want to point out that
what we're talking about is not just a bunch of think
tankers saying, ooh, this could happen. This is really
coming from hard evidence that our Government really does
not want us to know per se. I mean, they've been alerting
people, but they're been doing cryptically because they
don't want widespread panic.
THOR: It's true. And Glenn, you know what, you and I have
not spoken since last night on the TV show. I was contacted
late last night by someone who said -- a source that I trust
who said, Brad, you know, there's one thing you and Glenn
haven't talked about. Osama Bin Laden is a real student of
history. And he said, there is a historic precedent for The
Perfect Day, and this is a connected person who I know is
involved in the war on terror and what's going on. He said,
there was something in India called the sepoy mutiny, or the
first Indian uprising where the -- and I'm trying to get the
rest of it and I hope to have more for your radio program
tomorrow, but this thing we're talking about, The Perfect
Day, actually happened in colonial India where the Brits
knew it was coming but they thought, no, this, this can't
be, and how are we ever going to defend against one guy
here, one guy there and it actually happened in India. So
this is something I want to track down for you.
THOR: But the rest of what we've been talking about, yes,
the dots are out there. Every time we look, there's
something else, and they are connected and that's something
we need to be very conscious of.
GLENN: Okay. So tell quickly about the dots that we
THOR: Well, we talked about things. First of all, we based
it on this Al-Qaeda model of being like a shark, how they
swim big concentric circles. They don't come right in and
bite you. They collect Intel, getting closer and closer,
tighter and tighter in the circles. But before they attack,
before they take the bite, they come up and they bump you.
They want to see are you a threat, are you going to put up a
fight, or can we get you. And that's what we're seeing
across the country with the two Saudi Arabian men. I talked
to people in that investigation down in Florida, in the
Tampa area, the two Saudi men that boarded that school bus
and wouldn't get off and all that kind of stuff where there
was a strong feeling among people involved in that
investigation that that was a dry run. We see this, we see
school buses missing, 17 in Texas. We see thousands of
school bus radios missing in the Northwest, the Pacific
Northwest. We find, in the course of this investigation, I
talked with -- it would blow your mind how many law
enforcement departments I talked to that have interrupted
active surveillance on schools across the country. The dots
GLENN: So tonight -- first of all let me just tell this
story again. In Iraq we found a diskette that had a -- that
had downloaded all of the Department of Education security
measures, and they're all available online.
THOR: Not only a diskette, Glenn, but that disk was on an
Iraqi who was arrested in a terrorism raid, an Iraqi with
known ties to active Islamic terrorism.
GLENN: Okay. Well, that makes it even happier. So the
diskette has basically our emergency procedures in our
schools and what the Department of Education says you've got
to be ready for and this is what you do in case. So there's
another sign that they're studying us.
GLENN: The next thing that we found in Iraq again was eight
different schools. Tell me where these schools were and what
THOR: Okay. What was found in an insurgent, an Al-Qaeda
affiliated safehouse over in Iraq, they were school
blueprints, basically, floor plans for schools across the
country. San Diego, California, West Salem, Oregon,
Boyertown, Pennsylvania, schools in Texas, Virginia, New
Jersey, and this was very, very disconcerting and there was
a cover story that was concocted that, hey, this was just
some Iraqis who were involved with the Ministry of Education
in Iraq and they're looking to rebuild their schools and all
that kind of BS.
GLENN: Unbelievable. I mean, who would buy that, that they
come to us to look at the architectural plans of schools all
around the country, six or eight -- I mean, were these
remarkable schools, architecturally speaking, Brad?
THOR: No, no, it wasn't incredible Frank Lloyd Wright but it
shows you how desperate the FBI is to get to the -- they are
desperate. They are working so hard to prevent this from
happening. That's one thing I want your listeners to know is
that they do not want this to happen. They are working hard,
but at the same time they are trying to prevent people from
THOR: And it's a real delicate balancing act that those who
keep us safe have to juggle.
GLENN: I will tell you this. The frustration and the reason
why we're exposing this is not because we don't feel the
Government is doing their job. Quite the opposite. The
Government is doing their job on this. They don't have all
of the dots. They just have it -- it's exactly like
September 11th. What did you know and when did you know it.
Well, we knew that they were trying to do pilots but who
would have thought that they were going to do it into the
World Trade Center? We didn't know that piece. We're in
exactly the same situation.
THOR: Well, and what's amazing, Glenn, is as I've done this
investigation and I've talked to my sources and you talk to
one who says, well, I've got somebody else who's fed up with
the foot-dragging here and you need to talk to him and you
need to talk to her, a lot of the reticence to implementing
plans that can keep our kids safe, believe it or not, are
coming from the schools themselves.
GLENN: Yeah. Well, that's because -- and this goes to what I
was saying just a little while before you came on, that's
because a lot of these schools are in the heartland, they're
in small communities and they think, oh, well, nothing will
happen here. You are the bigger target than New York City on
this particular case, right?
THOR: Exactly. In one of the things that we're seeing here
is that they are looking for the softest targets possible,
and that means when you're looking at schools in the
heartland, you look at how long it takes from a 911 phone
call to getting a tactical team, not just patrol officers
but a tactical team on site, and in a lot of places that
takes a long time, especially if you have a
multijurisdictional swat team. So what these terrorists are
looking for from the stuff that's been recovered, and
tonight on your CNN Headline News program, we're going to
have John Giduck on who wrote the book terror at Beslan who
wrote the book, the dress rehearsal. Bin Laden has said what
we did in Russia, we will visit 100 times worse in America.
He's even gotten a religious edict allowing him to kill up
to two million American children and what they are looking
for is a school where the girls are old enough to rape and
the boys are too small to fight back.
GLENN: Okay. I asked you, I just talked to a woman about a
half hour ago. She said she watched last night's special
with her 14-year-old son. I ask you that you do not have
your kids watch tonight. Tonight is really horrific stuff. I
mean, tonight is -- and correct me if I'm wrong, Brad.
You've seen much more of this than I have. It's "Take your
breath away" evil stuff.
THOR: Glenn, I have a 4-year-old and a 2-year-old and I've
known John Giduck for a little bit who's going to be on
tonight, John Giduck is going to reveal things on your show
tonight that I'm going to bet you 99.9% of your audience has
never heard before and it's, it's actually going to even be
difficult for me to sit through it tonight because it's that
GLENN: Okay. Now, there's two things, also. One, there was
something else that -- Stu, just remind me, football games
and buses, will you? ADD moment. There was -- hang on just a
GLENN: I want to go back to Pakistan because there was
something else that we touched on last night and we didn't
play this tape. We were only cleared to play a few seconds
of it. I'm going to try to expand that and put it on
tomorrow's newsletter so you can see it. There's eight hours
of tape that we found in Pakistan in another Al-Qaeda
training camp, eight hours of tape where they made a mock
American school. The guy, the terrorists came in and they
took mock American students, they took one little boy and
they shot him in the head immediately and then in English
said, "Now follow our directions exactly." It's how to take
over an American school. It's eight hours of tape. Only an
hour of it has been seen by American law enforcement
officials here in America. We've only seen part of it. What
else is on this eight, the eight hours? What is this?
THOR: It's kind of the master planning tapes of Al-Qaeda. It
is the full library as best as our intelligence and military
people know, and what they did was they edited down to a
one-hour version to show American law enforcement in
particular what they need to be prepared for, and the most
chilling thing, there's the drive-up motorcycle
assassinations and things like that but the one thing that's
resonated throughout the law enforcement community has been
the attack on the school where they have the mock role
players. They've even got -- you can hear in the background
there's almost like a soundtrack of children crying, to add
realism to the training of these Al-Qaeda operatives, and
they are issuing their commands in English and then what
they're doing almost kind of PR media savvy is they take a
bunch of them up to the roof and they execute them on the
roof, kind of for the television cameras to show how serious
they are. And one of the -- if that isn't frightening
enough, Glenn, what we've discovered is all of their plans
on how to surveil the schools, how to get in the schools,
how to hold the schools, the one thing that's missing from
all these plans, there is no exit strategy. These people are
not planning to leave alive. They want to play this out for
the media. They want to absolutely devastate us emotionally,
psychologically and also financially with this kind of
THOR: And then they are going out feet first.
GLENN: And this is not something that is going to happen in
GLENN: The theory is that this is going to be a coordinated
attack all across the country in multiple locations.
THOR: Same day.
GLENN: To -- yeah, to completely devastate, shock and
horrify America. You know, I said yesterday that the
instruction that I gave my ex-wife, the mother of my older
children, and she didn't want to know. She said, Glenn, I
don't want to know all the details, and I give her the
option because she's kind of that person. And she really
doesn't -- usually she just dismisses me. She's not somebody
who -- you know, she's heard my rhetoric for a long time and
she's like, uh-huh, right. It was very surprising when I
talked to her about this. She said, tell me what I need to
know, and I did, and I gave her some of the sources, et
cetera, et cetera of what we've learned and she believed me,
much to my surprise, and I gave her the advice of, if you
see -- if you're watching TV or if I see it, I will call
you. And I don't care if you're in a meeting where you are,
you know, your boss is saying, you know, you're going to be
fired and you're going to lose your job. If I call you or if
you happen to see that in Kansas, a school has been taken,
you leave, you go to our school and you tell the principal,
I need to get my kid because she's got a doctor's
GLENN: Don't panic anybody, don't do anything because it's
most likely not going to happen. Don't cause panic but get
the kid out of school. Now, if it happens at our kids'
school, you do not go to the school. That's the last thing
THOR: Exactly. And the big reason why, this is something
that has not filtered out enough to the American public. One
of the big concerns is because -- and you and I have talked
about this on the program before that as human beings, as
Americans we gather at the site of a tragedy to help support
each other. Well, the big fear is that Al-Qaeda is counting
on that. They want us -- because it's this overwhelming urge
to protect our children, that we will rush to the scene and
as we gather there with news crews and the First Responders
are trying to set up a cordon to keep us back, what's going
to happen is they'll either be snipers or, worse, there are
going to be car bombs strategically placed throughout the
parking lot and around the perimeter of the school that they
will start lighting off one by one to just get an even
bigger body count.
GLENN: Brad, we have a late afternoon feed today, a video
feed of, from what I understand is some of the footage from
inside Beslan that has never been seen before. Can you tell
me about it? Are you aware of it? Do you know what this is?
THOR: I know a little bit about it. John Giduck again is the
expert. He's former military, he's a law enforcement
trainer. John actually speaks Russian and he was there very
early on with the siege at Beslan. He has trained some of
the Russian special forces members. So he's very intimate
with this, and I think this is something again that's part
of this whole package of the things that Americans need to
see and know. I've seen some, but I don't know exactly what
it is that John's going to be sharing.
GLENN: And I don't know if that video's going to be ready
for tonight's broadcast because it's a very late afternoon
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THOR: Thanks, Glenn.
GLENN: All right. Bye-bye.