GLENN BECK PROGRAM
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GLENN: Oh, yeah. From Rockefeller Plaza in Midtown Manhattan, this is the third most listened to show in all of the nation. Hello, America. My name is Glenn Beck. I'm glad you're here. There's a lot, there's a lot of ground to cover. First of all, we were talking about Rudy Giuliani and the fact that he's now antiillegal immigration. I've got to hear what Rudy Giuliani has to say. I guess he could win me over, maybe, if he said, well, you know, I made these statements in 1994; 9/11 changed everything. But it would show me -- I mean, it would be an incredible feat to win me over because it would show a lack of vision on Giuliani's part. But this is what he said in a 1994 press conference, this according to the ABC News. Some of the hardest working, most productive people in the city are undocumented aliens. If you come here and you work hard and you happen to be in an undocumented status, those are the people we want in this city. You are somebody we want to protect. We want you to get from underneath what is often a life of being like a fugitive, which is really unfair.

You've got to be kidding me, right? But we'll let Giuliani explain that.

By the way, I saw a video clip from this clown on WHO going after Romney. I can't say the guy's an idiot because he's clearly an educated man. I don't know anything about him, but I thought the way he went after Romney was obnoxious. Did you see it, Stu?

STU: It's on youtube and everything, right?

GLENN: Yeah. It's getting a lot of play. It happened last week. Still getting play, I noticed up on the news it's still getting play today. And going after, going after Romney on his pro choice stance from years gone past, I'm not going to give this guy -- I'm not going to give this guy a pass just to give him a pass, and I hate flip-floppers. I hate them. However, I don't mind pivot points. I'm a guy who's changed major opinions, ask you do that. That shows growth in your life. I want a guy who says, I'm different than I was 10 years ago; I understand this more deeply than I did 10 years ago. If you don't change, you're dead. But I want to see a pivot point, especially on a major change. I want to know exactly how that change came about, and he gave that.

But in this interview -- and I'd be fascinated for you to watch it, Stu. It's about 20 minutes. Romney came under attack by this guy from out of the chute, and I thought the guy was very rude. I just thought he was attacking him and attacking, you know, basically claiming that Romney doesn't even understand his own faith. And at some point they're off the air and I don't think Romney even knew that they were being taped.

STU: Yeah, from what I understand, he did the partial on-air interview, they went to break -- but the cameras, they went to break on the radio but the cameras --

GLENN: Yeah, they went to break in the studio but the TV cameras that are in the studio kept rolling.

STU: We may get Dan to put that in the newsletter today.

GLENN: Yeah, it was very good. And I thought you saw -- I think the Romney camp was a little concerned that, you know, you saw Romney kind of come after this guy, and I didn't think he came after him any more -- any less than he should have, any more than he should have. I thought he was right on the money. You know, at one point he gets up and he says, I mean, are you out of your mind? You think you know my religion more than I know my religion? I know my religion. He was a bishop in his church. I think he was even higher than a bishop in the church for a while. His father was, you know, kind of a significant player in the church. I mean, he knows the teachings of the church. And he said, you know, there are pro choice people who are Mormons, but what you have to understand -- and this may be too subtle of a point for people to understand, but it's a very libertarian point of view. It's actually my point of view. You know, I don't tie it to anything religious. It's my point of view. And I've said this before. In a perfect world, I'm pro choice, and I believe I actually am pro choice. I am antiabortion, and I know this sounds ridiculous, but where I draw the line is on this, because it's my libertarian stance, I'm a libertarian at heart. I just don't think that we are capable of living some of these higher laws because we want to be slaves. We have something about us that want that nanny state. And when you've got a bunch of people that want that nanny state, you've got to take care of them, especially when you couple it with a bunch of bleeding hearts that say, oh, gee, well, they fell and they went ow. They didn't fall. They were coming out of a bar where they had been drinking their face off. Of course they fell and went ow. Now, when they say I want to stop drinking and I'd like to stop falling, I'll be there to help them out. But until that time, who's got a booboo? You do because you're an idiot.

And he said that, you know, there are Mormons that are pro choice and what he meant by that was you can't -- and this is where I am -- you can't engage in it, you can't actively encourage it, you can't drive anybody to an abortion. Oh, drive to an abortion clinic? What? I'm against abortion, but I'm driving people there? You can't do that. But you don't want to take away somebody's choice. It's a libertarian stance.

STU: Right. But you're saying this is in a perfect world. You don't currently believe that?

GLENN: No, I don't believe that. No, I don't believe that. But that's the line he was drawing.

STU: Right. In that, in a perfect world people wouldn't want to choose that.

GLENN: Yes.

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